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Cunningham park trails were empty, had a good quiet solitary ride. good traction, no mud, real fun on the cx bike.
Were those trails real muddy? Last time I was there, there were some real peanutbuttery sections 
There were four bigger pools of mud (deep enough my rims were submerged) more towards the southern portion of the trail right before i turned around. Overall 90% dry though. Stillwell though would have been way wetter I think. Does not drain well from my experience.
@cpulvidente - what trail did you hit today? I don't think I've ridden it.
@Phil Maronilla it was meadowlark in east Northport. I haven't ridden it in a year or so, some good little additions of almost a pump track and some table top. Some of the trails are pretty tight, not a huge fan of most trails mainly because I can't ever seen to find a flow like Stillwell. It's almost as if they tried to jam too much into such a small area. 
Mark and I rode Meadowlark earlier this year. Connor is right about a certain lack of flow but there were some fun trails. I think we rode the whole thing twice in less than two hours. And I've got a sweet slow motion vid of Mark getting air on a tabletop jump.
Thanks Connor and Jim. I do like fast flowing trails. Speaking of flow, Rocky Point is open now I think.
I'd be interested in a socially distant mtn bike ride at Rocky Point. I have started wearing my Kissena Gator as a mask when riding outdoors
I hit Cunningham solo last Saturday , super early , avoiding obstacles for the most part , reducing any chance of crashing 
1 guy with his two small kids and a lonesome trail builder was the only company , was great to be out 

will try early Thursday morning 
Sweet to be out today 
folks have been busy at Cunningham , new jumps and features on the 210 side and the woodland is emerging 

I rode in Edgewood Oak Brush trail in Long Island over the weekend (exit 52 LIE). Very flat, smooth (hardly any roots or rocks), no drops or logs to go over and  super twisty in some parts. Fairly boring on a mountain bike. The red trail has the most exciting sections, but there are not enough of them. Ended up doing 11 miles. Could have done more but it wasn't worth it.
Yeah, it's a very tame trail. I rode there once last year in the summer. It's pretty nice in there though from a scenery point of view, especially the bit where you weave along the train tracks. I though at least.
I came across this new trail in Nassau while searching for trails close to me. Anyone been here yet?

Hempstead Harbor Woods Trail

Went to Hempstead Harbor Woods this morning. It was fun - some parts are like a giant pump track with lots of steep ups and downs, some felt a bit like Cunningham, other promised a bit of flow but then would eff you up with a rock or tree right in the wrong spot. INot a lot of milage yet - in just over 90 minutes we did variations on the loop half a dozen times - but I hear they are going to continue building trails. from Brooklyn it was further than Cunningham and a bit closer that Stillwell. And it was good to see Mark from a distance.


It was Very easy to keep my distance ,chasing @jim_nelson all morning.
Jim powering the tricky climb 

Groomed singletrack, all within the city limits.

https://www.strava.com/activities/3485069667
Definitely not a short read, but the department of the Interior is trying to regulate e-bike use on mountain bike trails. The comment period is open.

https://www.imba.com/sites/default/files/IMBA-analysis_BLM-proposedrule-ebike.pdf

https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/BLM_EBIKE_NPRM%20Final%203.27.20%20PDF.pdf
Tough day Saturday with @jim_nelson and @PatrickGrehan at  laurel ridge Long Island 
super sweaty day lots of hills 
the picture sums up my morning
”where are they now”

It must be extra hot and humid in the woods. Altho I miss riding the trails.
I spent the last 3 weeks driving to and from Utah to move a friend to a PhD program at USU. I couldn't stomach being out there and not getting some riding in so I coerced the second friend that drove out with us to take the 5 hour trip down to Moab with me. I have basically no photos except for this one from our water/snack break an hour in:


but it was sweet nonetheless.

We rented two 29er Stumpjumpers from Moab Cyclery, picked them up at 8am when they opened (when almost no one was there, not to mention the majority of the process was completed outdoors, very nice), and headed to the Bar M/Brands trails just Northeast of Moab adjacent to Arches National Park (which is incredible as well). There were a couple other cars in the lot when we pulled up and ran across other riders maybe 4 times in the 3 hours we were out. My friend is also a former runner and had never ridden any MTB before so we had charted out an easy/intermediate route with lots of regroup points. After a relatively easy techy/flowy trail we hit the big easy "family" loop that brought us to the slickrock portion of the trail center. And it fucking delivered. I grew up on roots and loam so this was out of this world, the weirdest mix of punchy, smooth climbs that at times required some trials-y skills to clear and then the steep downhills made it aerobically tough and technically challenging but super fun and somehow doable for my beginner companion. The "family" loop turned out to be super fun on the back half with a bunch of rolling gravel (which I found to be quite painful when I overcooked a turn towards the end of the ride). If you ever get the chance to make it out there I can't recommend it enough. I'm already trying to get together a bikepacking trip to take advantage of the similarly cool trails that apparently exist in the northern part of the state.
I was on a cross bike, but I stopped at 6 Mile Run MTB park because it is just off of the super long D&R Canal Rail trail from Somerset, NJ. It is pretty small, but there's this amazing flow section in a field that had super sticky red clay/dirt and some really fun (small) tabletops. This section is in a field, so you can see everything around you and it feels like you're flying! If you're in the area (about an hour from south BK), the ride along the Canal trail is chill and nice for racking up some quiet miles and this park is less than a half mile off of the path. 




I like that place , first time I ever road one of those wooden trail/bridge things 
it is however two way traffic in some sections so not the best to avoid interaction 
Yeah the 2 way system isn't great for a number of reasons. I imagine it's more crowded on weekends. Yesterday, I only saw one pair of cyclists and 1 hiker, so it wasn't too bad. 
I'm thinking of hitting either Cathedral pines or Rocky point this weekend , I haven't been to either before 
Any body prefer one over the other ? 
Rocky Point is mostly flat and can easily be ridden on a CX bike. It closes to cyclists Nov 1 for hunting season.

Cathedral is more flowy and has more elevation change, but not nearly as much as Glacier. the climbing is shorter and punchier. It can also be ridden on a CX bike, but has more roots than Rocky Point. 

Personally I think Cathedral is more fun, but they are both good and the fact that there are something like 14 miles of trails at Rocky Point is amazing
I'm thinking of hitting either Cathedral pines or Rocky point this weekend , I haven't been to either before 
Any body prefer one over the other ? 

I've parked at Cathedral, did a loop and then rode to Rocky Point! I can try and find the Strava route but it was really direct and less than 20min between them if I remember right 
Rocky Point has been fun lately, lots a sandy turns. And like Patrick says it's huge, you can do the whole loop and call it a day.
Lots of votes for Rocky Point it seems. I may go this weekend after stopping at Redbeard to pick up my kit. It is an hour from there though so wondering if there’s a nice spot any closer but farther than Cunningham that I should check out
Stillwell is 30 mins further than Cunningham and a significant upgrade 
Is Stillwell a full-mtb spot or is it cx-capable?
Stillwell is not as CX friendly as Rocky Point, but it is doable. The expert (black) trails have some significant roots and some drop offs that are more fun on a mtn bike, but it can all be managed on a CX bike