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I just don't get it.  It's a beautiful bridge, so dismantle it and put it in a huge museum upstate with other great pieces of architecture where you can pay to have a cyclist run into you, for that nostalgic effect.
And then roll up your sleeves.
A super modern wishbone bridge with pedestrian walkways on the North and South sides that meet in the middle where there's a cafe and public restrooms.
Running down the center on the same level for cars should be a wide, two lane bicycle path with bike parking in the middle so cyclists/tourists also have access to the cafe and bathrooms upstairs.
Roadways for cars.
Every flat surface for cars, bikes, people, should have electric heating elements so those, and all LED lighting, is powered by tidal generators in the East River, solar panels built into the bridge, and short wind turbines that aren't noticeable, are parts of the elements of the bridge.
Retractable clear roof also powered by green energy, automated for rain and snow.
This could be an infrastructure project that could get a lot of people working.  I don't believe it's eligible for Federal Funding, but the current situation is changing things dramatically, opening up the possibility.
And, set it up for whatever smart and driverless cars will need.  I don't know what that is, but I'm assuming leave spacing beneath the roads, or along the railing, to run electrical conduit, wifi repeaters, spacing for cell phone boosters, even smart paint strips on the roads, in anticipation of automated driving.  Think into the future by 150 years.
Make it a dark-sky bridge, so all the light faces down, and begin to remove some of the city's light pollution.
Then get to work redesigning how bicycles and pedestrians access it from both sides, giving priority to people over cars.
The cost of retrofitting the Brooklyn Bridge for any of these proposals will be massive. For about $135M, Portland built a brand new cable stay bridge over the Willamette that carries only busses, light rail, bikes, and pedestrians. A new bridge (not a replacement) would be a far better, cheaper and simpler solution for NYC. No shutting down the existing bridge during construction, no Landmarks concerns (I can guarantee that all of those proposals are non-starters as far as historic preservation folks are concerned), and some real design options for alternative transportation modes.
Of course, a dirt cheap solution would just take over the inside Manhattan bound car lane and block it off with Jersey barriers for bikes like they did on the Pulaski. Easy solutions for on and off. It rarely gets backed up with cars going that direction. That could be done this year. 
I say we keep the Brooklyn Bridge right where it is but we still build Bruce's bridge.

Bruce, get it done!

Of course, a dirt cheap solution would just take over the inside Manhattan bound car lane and block it off with Jersey barriers for bikes like they did on the Pulaski. Easy solutions for on and off. It rarely gets backed up with cars going that direction. That could be done this year. 
Why not take a Manhattan-bound AND Brooklyn-bound lane for bikes?  

It could be done overnight. 
Good read so far; ice baths, cryotherapy, post exercise nutrition windows, dehydration, sport specific food & drink all under the bus so far...

Warm-downs and recovery rides are a thumbs up.


Jules said:
Good read so far; ice baths, cryotherapy, post exercise nutrition windows, dehydration, sport specific food & drink all under the bus so far...

Warm-downs and recovery rides are a thumbs up.

Read it over the winter.

The writing style wore thin for me. 

I also think ice baths have a benefit I don't think she explored.  Cooling down after a hot day of exercise.    It's not for your muscles, but to bring down core temp.

Deprivation tanks got a plus, which points to other kinds of "recovery" modalities.
Definitely agree on ice baths but most people are bathing their legs but if you've overheated you would be doing your core - so slight difference.

It was a fast read; I didn't enjoy the extra explanation of athletics or the story behind each new marketing fad, so I was able to blast through pretty quickly.

Overall sleep (duh) and anything that makes you sit still and decompress mentally/emotionally seem to help.

Fascinating tidbit in it about placebos - if you give people opiate blockers most placebos stop working.

This copy is headed straight for the nearest "little library" definitely not one to put next to Pruitt's guide ;)

Irishman takes Everesting record from Alberto Contador

Ronan Mc Laughlin betters Contador's mark by 20 minutes on short sharp climb in northwest Ireland.
https://www.velonews.com/news/road/irishman-takes-everesting-record-from-alberto-contador/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDT7RFaFz37/
Maybe it's because I'm getting old, but I find myself ever more skeptical about Remco Evenepoel when I see articles with titles like this:

Remco Evenepoel has the experience and racing intellect to dominate

https://www.velonews.com/news/road/remco-evenepoel-has-the-experience-and-racing-intellect-to-dominate/
mugwump said:
Maybe it's because I'm getting old, but I find myself ever more skeptical about Remco Evenepoel when I see articles with titles like this:

Remco Evenepoel has the experience and racing intellect to dominate

https://www.velonews.com/news/road/remco-evenepoel-has-the-experience-and-racing-intellect-to-dominate/
I mean it's definitely not about the bike, but he was on the SL7. Maybe, just MAYBE, the bike was as good as the marketing makes it to be. 
mugwump said:
Maybe it's because I'm getting old, but I find myself ever more skeptical about Remco Evenepoel when I see articles with titles like this:

Remco Evenepoel has the experience and racing intellect to dominate

https://www.velonews.com/news/road/remco-evenepoel-has-the-experience-and-racing-intellect-to-dominate/
What are you skeptical about, his intellect?
I tried looking at the Strava file for Ronan McLaughlin's Everesting.  I was interested in the downhill speeds.

The hill he used was a bit over a half-mile long.  His fastest time down was 34 seconds.  His max speed for the day was 53.7mph.  At 34 seconds, average speed for a half-mile is 52.94mph.  

And it rained during at least some of his ride.  

The distance of his effort was 81.2 miles.  So 81 times he bombed the hill, and he finished at the bottom of the hill.  

Combine his effort with van Wert at Strada Bianche, and it was an amazing week for rim-brake bikes.  Then, I read an essay by a mag editor about how he prefers the simplicity and ride of rim-brake road bikes, but, you know, discs are better.  

I wrote about it:  http://jralong.com/2020/04/29/the-tour-giro-vuelta-classics-must-go-on/
on that note:
https://twitter.com/VelonCC/status/1289640702264016896/photo/1


275 Average. That's all folks.
Formalo was also riding rim brakes , 
alaphilipe 6 punctures ! Should of ran the “riddlers”
I gave a little ,

https://www.undergroundrailroadride.com/
The optics on this are not good. If I understand it right, they're not moving nationals to a safer place, just a location that will allow people to race- which (surprise surprise) is a covid hot spot. Will call ups be done by number of antibodies accrued throughout the season? 

BREAKING: IOWA CITY TO HOST 2020 USA CYCLING CYCLOCROSS NATIONALS, JINGLE CROSS POSTPONED


https://www.cxmagazine.com/iowa-city-to-host-2020-usa-cycling-cyclocross-nationals-jingle-cross-postponed
Not a good look at all. Season's over, yo.
The amount of cognitive dissonance is insane.
Also, on Milan San Remo: CYCLOCROSS IS EVERYTHING YOU WANT CYCLING TO BE.
eloy said:
Also, on Milan San Remo: CYCLOCROSS IS EVERYTHING YOU WANT CYCLING TO BE.
Dude on a rim brake bike chases down the guy who's supposed to be the best descender in the peloton and riding rotor discs, on a tricky descent.  

Pretty sweet.


The optics on this are not good. If I understand it right, they're not moving nationals to a safer place, just a location that will allow people to race- which (surprise surprise) is a covid hot spot. Will call ups be done by number of antibodies accrued throughout the season? 

BREAKING: IOWA CITY TO HOST 2020 USA CYCLING CYCLOCROSS NATIONALS, JINGLE CROSS POSTPONED

Optics are terrible. I'm hoping they reconsider.  Seems really dumb.  
mugwump said:
eloy said:
Also, on Milan San Remo: CYCLOCROSS IS EVERYTHING YOU WANT CYCLING TO BE.
Dude on a rim brake bike chases down the guy who's supposed to be the best descender in the peloton and riding rotor discs, on a tricky descent.  

Pretty sweet.


This should really be getting more coverage.
Relevant
Jules said:
mugwump said:
eloy said:
Also, on Milan San Remo: CYCLOCROSS IS EVERYTHING YOU WANT CYCLING TO BE.
Dude on a rim brake bike chases down the guy who's supposed to be the best descender in the peloton and riding rotor discs, on a tricky descent.  

Pretty sweet.


This should really be getting more coverage.
That seems like a misrepresentation to me , alaphilpe made several errors on the descent , wout
kept at a distance until the later stages of the decent

Jules said:
mugwump said:
eloy said:
Also, on Milan San Remo: CYCLOCROSS IS EVERYTHING YOU WANT CYCLING TO BE.
Dude on a rim brake bike chases down the guy who's supposed to be the best descender in the peloton and riding rotor discs, on a tricky descent.  

Pretty sweet.


This should really be getting more coverage.
That seems like a misrepresentation to me , alaphilpe made several errors on the descent , wout
kept at a distance until the later stages of the decent

First, Alaphilippe is supposed to be one of the best descenders in the pro peloton.

Second, regardless of where, he didn't lose any ground to him.

Third, there's another problem with discs.  More spokes in the front wheel.  Possibly eight more.  Over a 310km race, that can really add up.  
I have read before that the best descenders in the peloton are actually the sprinters , that is how they pull back time lost of the big climbing days to avoid cut off , not the guy at the front of the race necessarily,
 
@mugwump
Are you not a  fan of disc brakes :)
@mugwump
"Third, there's another problem with discs.  More spokes in the front wheel.  Possibly eight more.  Over a 310km race, that can really add up"

this may be true , but i would argue that just looking at this picture , its clear that the specialized appears to be more areo , surly that adds up over 310k also 

@mugwump
Are you not a  fan of disc brakes :)
I'm a skeptic.  I think it's hard not to be when the assurances are so broad and the evidence is so scant.  

Arguably, a disc brake road bike can have a more aero front end than one with a side pull brake on the front of the fork crown.  At the same time, what's going on behind the brake, aka the trailing edge, can make a difference.  What that's worth vs. rotating spokes is not known.  

Wout appears to be wearing a skin suit, possibly another advantage for him.  Both have aero helmets.
I think we agree the disc's on the road offer no upgrade (except maybe helping keep my tan wall tires cleaner in the wet)
but the big manufactures are forcing our hand ,i'm hopeful that the custom builders wont abandoned the caliper brake