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R&A Cycling Series

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I had a crappy morning all around. I was late (took too long getting going, forgot water bottles, etc) and TT'd to race rolled up, dropped bag at bag drop and lined up at the back of the field. Moved up without much difficultly. At the end of 2 or 3, I get a tap on my hip near the temple / boards and I figure someone is just trying to let me know he is there so I don't run him into the gutter since I'm on the right hand edge of the road. Then I  get a couple more taps and I just keep riding. There wasn't much I could do, no room to my right and the field on my left. Next thing I know I have someone on my left trying to give me some "friendly advice" saying I'm swerving etc. I'm not having any of it and I do my best Garrigan impression sitting up and turning to talk to the guy who is behind me on my left. I think it is one of the Burrows brothers (W.S. United). I wasn't having any of it. After saying my piece, I focus on the road ahead and I hear Jules telling him I'm right (thanks Jules). Turns out I'm no Garrigan and I should save my energy for riding.

That distraction, fatigue from lack of sleep this week and a bit too much time in the wind was enough to say lights out for me. I just couldn't catch back on after getting gapped at the top of the hill. Considering the carnage probably just as well. 
BTW, the guy whose GoPro went flying past me on the downhill was riding without any tape on his bars.  I think he likes the blue color; goes with his Pinarello's paint job, but the humidity was like Mississippi in the summer.  
I know him from the triangle ride. Teacher. Chris loehner will know his name. I can figure it out easily. Look at the orchard beach results from the 123. He's the other bicycle planet guy .
George Schroeder is the fella's name....nice enough dude.

So here's a philosophical question: If you are George Schroeder, knowing that it was your flying GoPro that GoWrecked the field, do you offer to pay for the broken bike and/or any damages suffered in the race?

Or is it like a flying water bottle accident, and part of the general risk of the sport?

Can you be held legally accountable in a court of law?
Water bottle
I agree it should be treated like a water bottle incident, but I am firmly of the opinion that the likelihood of incidents could be reduced if people were not permitted to race with the damn things. In fact people shouldn't be able to race WITH any extraneous nonsense on their bikes (pumps, saddlebags, etc).

And they shouldn't be allowed to race WITHOUT handlebar plugs.

Maybe I'm wearing a pair of rose tinted glasses but I recall racing in the UK people had to remove pumps and bikes being checked: tires glued properly, bars and stem tight, quick releases, bar plugs, cage grips bottle (alloy cages so the official could squeeze the cage tighter if necessary).
Every Bike, Every field.
Just saw the results, HARRY EDMUND B. IN THE DOTS! <3

I'm tied with Horrace Burrowes who was out-kicking me in the sprints... tough assignment.
http://spasport.com/r_and_a_cycles_series_overall.htm
i'm not a lawyer and can't give legal advice but my understanding is that in NY, participants in sport owe each other a duty to refrain from reckless activity.  someone acts with recklessness when they are aware of a substantial unjustifiable risk and consciously disregard that risk.  affixing a camera to your bike doesn't sound reckless. the risk of it falling off doesn't seem substantial considering the robust attachment apparatus.  even if it does fall off, this happens with waterbottles all the time, moving it into the category of risks that are justifiable as they regularly occur in the sport.  and we know from our love of race footage that the use of a gopro is eminently justified.
Harry - correct me if I am wrong but I don't think you were contesting the KOM. I'm going to guess this is a function of Owens' penmanship.
Craig,

Are you implying that Harry paid a bribe to Owens to put him in contention for the KOM?
Once again whoever is transferring results to the computer (Atwood?), they are either reading them incorrectly or there is a discrepancy in their numbers on file and the ones they are given, ala Yacks in the L&C.

Yeah, Harry didnt get any points in that. A Stan's guy got 1st and 2nd.

And Carbonara has 16 overall not 8 if their numbers are right.
Good grief.  Two broken collar bones from Sunday?  Yeeesh.
Who?  Both from the R&A race?  Do tell.
anyone racing the R&A this Saturday?  I'm skipping it.

Malcolmson?  Anyone supporting John?


I'm racing it.
I'm out of town
Not sure I can make this. 
I'm in. It was carryover registration. Yawn.
It is Kayt's first race. Make sure to go out and support her. Nice to see the KCC colors being worn in the women's field. She will do well.

I'm torn about my own racing plans. I've got the same Yawn feeling Ragot has.
 WooHoo, Kayt!  You're gonna crush it!

I'm doing it. Why not?

My yawn is from not getting up early in weeks.

I've attempted to get my name entered to this race based on the credit I have from the cancelled race. This request went nowhere last weekend. We'll see what happens this weekend.
^ Awe, thanks @Craig and @Bruce-- and everyone else, for that matter! Wouldn't even be doing it if it wasn't for all the encouragement and sage advice I've received ove the last weeks. Looking forward to Saturday! And let's be honest, I'm kind of dreading it, too :)
@Kayt you'll do great.  First race is a special thing; enjoy the butterflies!

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Does anyone on the club have a more personal relationship with Charlie I.? At present, he is not responding to my emails about getting on the start list for Saturday's race. In short, without drama, I am owed a free entry from the cancelled race. He is not honoring that promise from 1 month ago. I do not know why. He won't answer my emails. I could use some help here. Thanks.

Marc, if you're intent on racing I would suggest just signing up and then ask for your money back at the race. I'm not sure how easy it is for him to add folks to the roster once it has opened up on BikeReg. He's a very reasonable guy in person but pretty overloaded when it comes to emails, etc....


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