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Group Ride (Sat & Sun)

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Ingrid, we are heading to rockleigh course via the low road. Maybe head there. 

Can't wait to hear how the clinic went!

Patrick and I hit the wide open yonder. Fun climbing. No mechanicals, a couple of refuel stops and by the time I got home over 3000kj.

My head unit is in transit from a warranty issue, as such I don't have specific data for you, but based on a past ride, this ride was at least 90 miles.

Related, these last few weeks racing and riding without a head unit, I feel like my Stages is keeping secrets, it knows things about me, that I will never know. Would be cool if a firmware upgrade added the ability for the unit itself to "store" a certain amount of data, to upload/download later.

In other news, I want to offer up a really important pro tip. This time of year, it's really easy to get dehydrated. The effects can be devastating. I felt like I did a pretty good job of keeping hydrated today, but before and after weigh-ins show that I lost 6lbs in water weight today. Not good folks, not good.

I actually feel pretty good and if not for the numbers on the scale, I would not be concerned.

I also notice, when doing indoor training, I sweat so much that despite drinking a whole 24oz bottle, in one hour, I lose 2lbs of water weight.

Drink, drink, and drink some more!


Can't wait to hear how the clinic went!

Patrick and I hit the wide open yonder. Fun climbing. No mechanicals, a couple of refuel stops and by the time I got home over 3000kj.

My head unit is in transit from a warranty issue, as such I don't have specific data for you, but based on a past ride, this ride was at least 90 miles.

Related, these last few weeks racing and riding without a head unit, I feel like my Stages is keeping secrets, it knows things about me, that I will never know. Would be cool if a firmware upgrade added the ability for the unit itself to "store" a certain amount of data, to upload/download later.
I had the same issue earlier this spring and was lost without my Garmin. I ended up downloading an app and was able pair the Stages with it via Bluetooth. I used the Wahoo app and it was pretty good. I couldn't look at it but I was at least able to record rides. Might be worth trying out, especially since the app is free. 

I've used Wahoo app too and it works well. In fact, I think that the Bluetooth works better than ANT+ in urban areas where there is a lot of radio interference. I noticed when I use my trainer that the ANT+ will drop if someone turns the microwave on and the Bluetooth continues to work just fine. So in some instances there are advantages to the iPhone recording rather than the Garmin.

I joined Dale and Malcolmson up the west side bike path until they took the bridge over the highway to GWB and I continued on to Inwood park and then cut over to Harlem River Drive. It's fun to explore parts of the city we don't typically ride. There is a decent bike path running down the east river from Dykman St (about 201st St) to 163rd. Tried to do a lap or two in CP but there was a massive runners race making riding impossible. Rode back down the west side bike path and passed going the other way a Kissena coming over the Manhattan bridge on my way home. Was it Ingrid? It was around 10:20.
Good times participating in Dale's clinic out at Rockleigh today. Cornering, race tactics, pick up the bottle and bumping off the wheel. Thanks to the crew that attended.

We're getting a nice collection of sweet Giant Propels in the club.
Austin and I two-man TT'd the headwind back, feeling pretty beat, can't imagine burning 3000 kj's in that heat Marc -- are you on an IV yet? Or still in the ice bath?
Guys thank you to Dale, john and J.P for the clinic today. I really enjoyed it. Some great stuff learned. John thanks for dragging my ass down 9w. 
Sweeet
+1 on the clinic. wheel bumping FTW. but never in race.
Hope the little clinic was beneficial in some way to all.  I think we covered a wide range of topics from general riding skills to cornering to tactics.  JP covered the technical, John the physical, and myself the mental aspects of a race.  We'll look to do something like this again for the Cat 4s and 3s, and if we can find the right course-more of a road race bent to it.   
Meet Kissena ride this Sunday at the usual time (9am GW). Come and ride to Piermont with us and meet potential new members (so far 4 signed up). 
Hoping to make this ride--thanks @Phil!

Looking forward to group ride fun tomorrow. I'm going to start with the standard "Rockland Lake" ride, but extend it a bit (it's about a 20-mile addition to the standard Rockland Lake ride) and head to the Orchard. Company welcome. Pace will not be killer, but won't be dawdling either. 70-ish-mile ride GWB to GWB.
Thanks to everyone that showed up for the Meet Kissena ride. 

Nice big group to start out. Had to be at least 10 or 12. Lots of new faces, a few familiar ones as well. After motoring to Piermont, JP, Brendan and I went on a wormhole ride that was new to me. Some roads familiar, others less so. JP was on a tear and despite me trash talking him a bit in the beginning, he ended up cracking me up the final ascents to 9W. 66 miles, 18 mph average, 2456kj in 3 hours 40 minutes. That's some work there.

These next few months should be good for group rides...not too many double race weekends. C'mon out everyone. There something for everyone on "the Jersey side of the GWB!"
marc graciously omitted the part where I told him and JP to go on without me because my fitness was too poor to keep up.  what a gentleman!

good to see everyone.  hopefully i'll be at these more often.
marc graciously omitted the part where I told him and JP to go on without me because my fitness was too poor to keep up.  what a gentleman!

good to see everyone.  hopefully i'll be at these more often.
(for those who don't know where he made mention of this, we could see Harriman State Park in the background.  He said his phone had a charge, he had money, he could make his way home.  Since it was warm and sunny, and we had exited the trickiest parts of this wormhole, we figured it was ok to leave him.  Probably should have given him some sunscreen though)
 
Brendan,
     So happy to read you made it back.  

     Alive.

     And before sundown.

     Did my directions work out?

     Also should praise you for riding through lightheadedness.  As Andy Hampsten once said, 'you'll never win the Tour if you can't ride all-out while seeing double.' You'll probably be ready to rock on Tuesday.

Hey John, I was OTB, who won the stateline sprint on the low road?
I think Bryan Miele beat Brendan Rigby.  I think I took third from John and Dale.  

More importantly, I think we need to honor David Lipscomb by scooping up his Strava segment.  From the first road by the Rockleigh Crit to the stateline is a segment.  David has marked it and holds the lead.  Our own David Gardiner is tied for second.  Brendan moved up to fourth, with Dale. I moved into 10th, tied with WrongWay, Mark Clifford and some others.  Bruce and Yang  and Whitey are in 14th, along with Foris and Joaquin de Baca.

Next time, we need to own this segment. 
It would be a collective shame that Kissena does not own the state-line-sprint Strava segment now that it has come to our attention. I feel as if we've owned it spiritually for a long time, but times are a-changin' and we need to a-change with 'em.

Working backwards from our sprinter (No. 1, unnamed) and our final lead-out man (No. 2, Malcolmson), I think I'd make a credible No. 4 or 5.


(As an aside, while such a thing would be impossible in the 4s or the 5s, I don't understand why you 1-2-3's don't have a John Henry/Seal Team 6 leadout procedure for all the park races and what not.)
(As an aside, while such a thing would be impossible in the 4s or the 5s, I don't understand why you 1-2-3's don't have a John Henry/Seal Team 6 leadout procedure for all the park races and what not.)
Edit. I realized that my previous response was probably inviting what I did not want. Oh irony.

The short answer is that we need the bodies who are present, willing and committed to the leadout. And once we have riders in the right position at the end of the race, those riders must be unified in their thinking on how to approach the final laps. And even if we got all that right, we still might not be strong/fast enough.

Went out for a quick-n-dirty ride and ran into Brendan and Brian on the Jersey side of the GWB arond 9am (man, it's like magic, ride over the bridge on a weekend around 9am, and there's bound to be a KCC waiting for riding friends!).

I only had 2 hours to ride today, and I managed to convince them to do join me on my "Hills of Alpine" ride.  The first major climb we took pretty controlled, but on the second, well...

Release the hounds! I was actually hoping to go somewhat easier on this shorter, but steeper and harder climb, but with Brian nipping at my heels, I had to crank out the watts to escape. Ouchy, that kind of hurt. Set a new 4 minute power record in the process.

Related, rumor has it that another long-hair riding solo set a new 5-minute power record. Bodes well for tomorrow's crit in White Plains.

Finished up the ride by going down/home River Road where I can report that it's once again, "fully operational."
9am GW
How was the group ride? Good turnout?
I turned out. Did RR, bumped into Erika at Piermont (!) watched TJ get smacked, TT'd home. Saw Wes at Strictly. 

Saw Ryan and Wes at Mattie's, who told me they all got sick from racing through Horse Dung Alley in the wet — which is exactly what happened to me last week.  :s

Good times.


Seemed people were out doing their own thing. I had child care duties so went out at 6am. On my way back I saw Adam riding up the west side highway around 7:45, and passed Erika as she was just starting across the BB at 8:05 and Dale was close behind her with a non-Kissena. In a couple of weeks the child care issue goes away when my son goes off to camp so I'll be out for regular group rides soon. On Saturday, it was me passing you, Brendan and Brian? going the opposite direction on Hudson Terr. around 9:10 or so. I did River Rd early due to child care scheduling. 
I also had an early curfew, as I promised my wife I'd be around more after the past few weeks were dedicated to racing. I was home around 10 each day.
Feel free to post here if you're going out at an earlier time. There's plenty of people who have family commitments that force an earlier start.