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the top 2 spots on the Maltese podium...lovely
^ I called that one! Also no. 3 looked dodgy.

Where do you guys "hear" this stuff????

Once again, I'd like to remind everyone that I started the winning break at Maltese, and then was dropped from the winning break. Damn dopers. 
We know Mike, we know. I was there and saw it. 
I hear those guys use the "gel" and the "cream"...next time you are in a break with them, try and rub elbows and perhaps you can get contact doped.
even the paralympic guys are down...

http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-crouse92313
Purple monkey dishwasher.

/subtle Simpsons referemce

Nothing on the USADA website.  This thread is starting to look like a gossip column.

One poor kid did get busted at Jr. Track Nationals though... for pot.
STARTING to look like a gossip column?

@twoyacks

I think I posted this before, but a guy was busted last year for doping in Paralympic Curling! I mean Curling!  (Aptly, the guy's last name is Armstrong.)

http://deadspin.com/5893881/what-is-going-on-with-all-the-doping-in-wheelchair-curling

You realize the everything published on page 6 is accurate....EVERYTHING.
Of course...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/16/us/a-push-to-sell-testosterone-gels-troubles-doctors.html?src=rechp
Jules said:

Hmmm...

Zabriskie has his chamois creme.  Landis now needs to have his own (androgel infused) chamois creme--"made fom an old Menonite recipe."

Both Martes and Meran are Dominican Nationals as far as I know. I wonder how that affects the process. Anthony's press release came out a month earlier than his Italian counterparts. Just saying.

I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt and I believe in rehabilitation, but people talk and so should we. I'm pretty sure that we're all on the same page regarding doping being bullshit, right?
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I think I've said this before, but with a new crop of Kissenas on board, it bears repeating. I understand the need to be relevant. We all want to/need to matter in some way. Of course.

But for me, the way I've decided to be "relevant," is not to chase after results that matter only to me and my wife, but to take my 21+ years of racing experience and help new riders grow and learn from my experiences. I'm really fortunate that Kissena, with its mentor framework/structure allows me a platform to share.

Come spring, look for me to be posting announcements about upcoming workshops, course run-throughs and more! I stepped up my "mentor game" in 2013, and I'm looking forward to making 2014 better still.

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I've never been on BH but I went on a weekend trip with David Anthony, and I got to know him a little bit. My impression was that he was a real jerkoff, and I was not the least bit surprised that he got caught doping. 

I say this because I really think BH is a pretty good, respectable team. Michael Boardman, one of their fastest guys, has been very cool to me on multiple occasions, including in races (like at Cap Region when I braved the Pro123). Warren St. John is a pal. 

I don't think that team bred David Anthony's need to be relevant. I think that idea was born in David Anthony's screwed up ego and mind.
And @Gwynna while I whole-heartedly agree with the gist of your comments--in the interest of being fair and balanced (TM)--we have had at least two former Kissena members go on to be dopers.
^to be fair though, only one was dumb enough to try and sell us on his clothing line...
Jules said:
^to be fair though, only one was dumb enough to try and sell us on his clothing line...
And I for one was psyched at the idea of wearing a BundeSport (TM) kit, although I guess it did sound a bit Fifth Column-ee.
I plan on being an ex-doper one day.  You heard it here first.  That way I'll finally get on NYVelocity.
To be perfectly candid though, I'm disappointed that some 40 something sad-sack who can't cope with his own mortality gets more shit from the local peloton than this guy:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/04/10/ex-sac-employee-gets-court-permission-for-african-honeymoon/?_r=0

http://www.usacycling.org/results/?compid=257794


So NY Velocity is a breeding ground for dopers and corporate criminals.  
mugwump said:
So NY Velocity is a breeding ground for dopers and corporate criminals.  
I think you'd be hard pressed to make a good argument that "pure as the driven snow" grown men blundered into the boiling cauldron of evil that is NYVelocity and were "turned" Vader Style to villainy.

The irony is that the website has been such a staunch anti-doping, pro Ashenden enclave for so long, while the team itself has been... sullied.


mugwump said:
So NY Velocity is a breeding ground for dopers and corporate criminals.  
I was going  to write the same thing but I restrained myself....

I think I've said this before, but with a new crop of Kissenas on board, it bears repeating. I understand the need to be relevant. We all want to/need to matter in some way. Of course.

But for me, the way I've decided to be "relevant," is not to chase after results that matter only to me and my wife, but to take my 21+ years of racing experience and help new riders grow and learn from my experiences. I'm really fortunate that Kissena, with its mentor framework/structure allows me a platform to share.

Come spring, look for me to be posting announcements about upcoming workshops, course run-throughs and more! I stepped up my "mentor game" in 2013, and I'm looking forward to making 2014 better still.

wait a second . . . are you saying your wife cares about your results?  SHOCKED AND CONFUSED!??!
I've saw a couple of questionable amateurs on my ride back from Piermont this weekend.

When will it end?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/26/sports/pigeon-racing-doping.html?_r=0
its all fun and games until someone has a stroke or cardiac arrest

apropos of local dopers:  

There was testing at the Florida state road race championships on 10/27/13.  Florida has a Ride Clean fund for testing.  Today, 11/6/13, USADA sent a letter to one of the guys tested telling him they found nothing.  The rider, Giancarlo Bianchi, posted the letter to his Facebook page.

#justsayin