• ChampionSystem pb Stan’s NoTubes

• Century Road Club Association (CRCA – NYC)

• Rod Millott

• Capital Bicycle Racing Club (CBRC – Albany)

• Foundation New York Cycling

• Tioga Velo Club (TVC – Binghamton)

• Tarmac Cycling

• Onondaga"

Paging Mr Mengoni, Mr Mengoni! Do they even think they have a problem?

What do people think about Kissena ponying up? At the very least some "donations"; Marc could get us genetic analyzer; Stokes a centrifuge; Adam N. a cyclotron particle accelerator.

Brendan Rigby said:

Modafinil. 

edit: I know of people receiving prescriptions for that for ADD/ADHD type stuff (it's a technical term, 'stuff').  Maybe Martes was trying to burn the midnight oil?

mugwump said:

Brendan Rigby said:

Modafinil. 

edit: I know of people receiving prescriptions for that for ADD/ADHD type stuff (it's a technical term, 'stuff').  Maybe Martes was trying to burn the midnight oil?

If by "midnight oil" you mean body fat and increase his fast-twitch, you might be on to something.

The only question is why did it take so long?  He accepted the suspension a month after the race and we're hearing about it five months later.

Personal story ahead (but hey, this is the internet where we feel free to share all sorts of personal things):

I’ve been sort of peripherally following this debate for a while. Back about 6 years ago I was 35 pounds heavier than I am now. A health screening at work indicated a bad cholesterol ratio and a sky high triglyceride count (about 400). I was always tired, had low sex drive, and was always having sugar crashes. I went to my doctor and had blood work done which confirmed the bad cholesterol and triglyceride numbers but also came back with a very low T # (about 170). My doctor suggested I change my diet and get some exercise which he surmised would help on all counts.

6 years later my latest blood work is superb, I feel much healthier, and I again participate in a sport that I loved when I was younger. I’m pretty proud of all that, but my T counts haven’t really budged - latest test was 185.

From what I’ve read there are health consequences of low T but of course it’s hard to be confident that the studies aren’t clandestinely funded by drug companies. But I still have some of the symptoms that I think relate to low T like a diminished sex drive and persistent boob and belly flab. So in my latest conversation with my doctor we discussed the ramifications of replacement therapy. Despite the plethora of misinformation he feels I would be a good candidate for the therapy (other risk factors being low). I told him I wasn’t interested.

There was a story last year about a guy who’s TUE for replacement therapy was dismissed because even though the symptoms being treated were verified, there was no defined cause. I’d rather compete clean (without a TUE) and not have any worries about getting involved in any of that kind of craziness. Nevermind the risks associated with the therapy.

So, while I still listen to the back and forth in the debate, I keep it shelved and try to balance the worries I have about long term consequences of low T against the fun and camaraderie I get from bike racing.

How did it get to your body then?

I told you I don't know

What is your explanation for this?

Maybe my body produces it, a combination of supplements maybe? But I don't know. Really I don't know.

HIS BODY NATURALLY PRODUCES MODAFINIL!!!  That's too rich.