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Picked up my kit yesterday, looks fantastic. Loving the new design...
Epic fail on the laundering of the kit tonight...I laundered and dried as I have many, many times before...and yet, this time, my the colors ran and imprinted themselves and on other white items in such a way that make my clean jerseys white tees filled with slashes of yellows, blues and oranges. I'm going to look terrible...
What the what? Marc is now riding so fast even the colors on his jersey are getting dropped.

Pictures please.
Marc, try a bleach pen on the whites. Jules recommended it to me and it works like a charm. 
STORE IS OPEN!
The store will remain open until Dec 15th 2012 (no extensions)

PLEASE FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY 
  1. http://champ-sys.com/home AND CLICK ON "Custom Clothing Login"
  2. Username "Kissena"
  3. Password "temppassword"
  4. You will be prompted to create your OWN NEW LOGIN & PASSWORD 
  5. Click on "order now" for the "Kissena Winter 2012 Order"
  6. Order away - but ONLY stuff for which there is an existing design (picture)
DO NOT ORDER THE STUFF UNDER THIS HEADING:
"More Popular ItemsGo ahead and place your order. We'll make the proofs based on your design!" 

Happy Shopping!

Hey Jules,

I'm guessing the same goes with stuff under this heading?

You don't have a proof for this item now 
but we will send you a proof for this item to approve after you order it.
Hey Jules,

I'm guessing the same goes with stuff under this heading?

You don't have a proof for this item now 
but we will send you a proof for this item to approve after you order it.
FLYING DROPKICKS TO ANYONE WHO DOES THIS
(yes, you are right in your guess)

Jules said:
Hey Jules,

I'm guessing the same goes with stuff under this heading?

You don't have a proof for this item now 
but we will send you a proof for this item to approve after you order it.
FLYING DROPKICKS TO ANYONE WHO DOES THIS
(yes, you are right in your guess)
This is hilarious, because despite CS making it sound easy-peasy ('order what you want, we'll just send a proof'), didn't it take like 150 back and forth conversations to get the current crop of kit's proofs right?

Jules said:
Hey Jules,

I'm guessing the same goes with stuff under this heading?

You don't have a proof for this item now 
but we will send you a proof for this item to approve after you order it.
FLYING DROPKICKS TO ANYONE WHO DOES THIS
(yes, you are right in your guess)
This is hilarious, because despite CS making it sound easy-peasy ('order what you want, we'll just send a proof'), didn't it take like 150 back and forth conversations to get the current crop of kit's proofs right?
Way more than 150.  But yes.

QUESTION:

When selecting EDGE bib shorts (and possibly others) it allows us to choose the color of our flatlock stitching. By default, white is selected. Should we change that to navy blue or does it matter?

QUESTION:

When selecting EDGE bib shorts (and possibly others) it allows us to choose the color of our flatlock stitching. By default, white is selected. Should we change that to navy blue or does it matter?
Good question!  You MUST choose NAVY BLUE.  CS doesn't allow us to lock this down so you need to be careful.
Flying dropkick

So I need a jacket for winter riding - the only thing I've had in the past is a hand-me-down Kissena fleece jacket, which was from Chabanov so of course it was too big for lil' me.  The fleece jawn feels a bit sweaty and heavy - thoughts about the best ChampSissy winter jacket?

Tito,

I've got the CS Thermal jacket...extremely warm. Most winter, I get by with either a short sleeve or long sleeve base layer ONLY underneath. And I use the zipper for thermal regulation. Sometimes it's tricky to tell if I'm getting cold or wet, but you absolutely CANNOT let yourself get too sweaty on winter rides.

You could get by with layers of other CS gear, but I don't like the ability to regulate evaporative cooling as well as if I've just got one heavy jacket with a functioning zipper.

Yeah, I'm kind of a layers fanatic - I get super-duper hot and sweaty very quickly, and in winter rides I need to be able to change layers often.  The thermal jacket sounds a bit on the heavy side...
So, Tito...you acknowledge the problem. You can try to layer multiple base layers and multiple jersey's and hope you don't get too sweaty. It's impossible to predict what you are going to be feeling like 1 hour into a 3 hour winter ride. You can try to under-layer, but what if the temp says 30 degrees, but it's a damp day with lots of humidity, windy 30 which feels much more like 20 degrees? I like my solution. One heavy jacket, one base layer and one working zipper. But that's just me...

P.S. Don't sprint from the bottom of Cat's Paw.
Tito the second-from-warmest one seems to be the most popular; but only needed if it's below 40 in my opinion.
I agree with Marc on this. The fewer layers the better. That makes zipper temperature regulation much more effective. Either of these two jackets will work, under nearly all practical conditions, with only a deep winter base layer, or at most the base layer plus another jersey layer. 

http://champ-sys.com/custom/cycling/jackets/custom-thermoshield-winter-jacket.html
http://champ-sys.com/custom/cycling/jackets/custom-cs-neoprene-cstech-fleece-jacket.html

I find that it is much more important to keep my hands, feet, and head/neck areas warm in really cold conditions. It is rarely my core that is the issue.

BTW, I use this base layer when it's really cold (bonus, it is somehow immune to BO even after two or three long rides!):

http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/ironclad-1st-layer-cold-condition
Tito - I love the Tech Fleece Jacket and the lightweight shell vest on top.....with a craft base layer i think it's warm enough for everything but the most frigid days.

when the thermometer really dips,  i add an old shell from pre-K days.....but only if it's cold enough to end up with this look from last year's MLK day ride (when the weather channel forecast called for "mad shrinkage")


dstearns said:
Tito - I love the Tech Fleece Jacket and the lightweight shell vest on top.....with a craft base layer i think it's warm enough for everything but the most frigid days.

I'm with Dave; Craft base under a jersey + tech fleece and vest will do me fine until you're below 40.

And double what Whitey said; warm hands, feet & neck go a LONG way - that's the chill that really makes longer rides miserable.

My 3 favorite pieces of kit for the chilly weather are (in no order):
  • neck gator
  • vest
  • craft thermal cap


Thanks dudes!  I'll sleep on it.

Now, does CS have any anti-shrinkage tech?
http://champ-sys.com/custom/cycling/groinal/custom-thermoshield-winter-codpiece.html
Some people are getting the "you don't have proof" for things that clearly are there, like gloves, warmers and skinsuits.  Here is what Champ Sys says (essentially don't use the lefthand menu)

When ordering, you can select the items by clicking the corresponding proofs in your main order screen (see below) and you will not receive this no proof message. There is an issue with the order form displaying the message erroneously when selecting items from the left hand cascading menu. We are resolving it and it will have no effect on your order.

 
You can't handle the proof!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzd40i8TfA
 

has anyone found fleece bib shorts?  Could someone direct me to the proper thumbnail?

thanks.
Wump, Click on "cycling shorts and bib shorts" you will see fleece bib shorts are the last menu item
is anybody having trouble logging into CS custom site today?
Yes, just tried and got the error below.  I've alerted CS.

Server Error in '/' Application.Compilation ErrorDescription: An error occurred during the compilation of a resource required to service this request. Please review the following specific error details and modify your source code appropriately. 

Compiler Error Message: CS1061: 'CSWS.CSService' does not contain a definition for 'OrderCleanProductQty_new' and no extension method 'OrderCleanProductQty_new' accepting a first argument of type 'CSWS.CSService' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

Source Error:

<pre style="font-family: 'Lucida Console'; font-size: 0.9em;">Line 1745: protected void but_popup3_OK_Click(object sender, EventArgs e) Line 1746: { <font color="red">Line 1747: myService.OrderCleanProductQty_new(App, Pass, Log, OrderID); </font>Line 1748: Response.Redirect("sfo.aspx" + KeyOrderID); Line 1749: }</pre>
Source File: d:\CSsystem\US\en-US\g\sfo.aspx.cs    Line: 1747 


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Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET Version:4.0.30319.1
I emailed them about it i got a reply an hour ago saying that they're aware of the problem and are working to fix it
It's up and running again